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Old 10/28/2020, 06:06 PM   #3976
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I just got my LifeReef CLF2 Sump yesterday. I'll get it on-line in the next few weeks, I can't wait. Looks great by the way, my order got moved up a few weeks so very happy.


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Old 10/28/2020, 06:27 PM   #3977
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Salahunreal, not sure about trying to "lift" water with the Skimmer outlet pressure. I've never heard of anyone doing that or asking about the possibility. You could try it, it's only a little extra "temporary" plumbing. A few pieces of tubing, a PVC fitting or two and see what happens. Might surprise yourself
LOL, I kinda felt it was a stupid question as in theory, the water will go higher than the water column inside the skimmer so properly it will overflow I guess.

Congras on your sump. I wished if I could get one but shipping and taxes will be twice the price of the sump.
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Old 10/28/2020, 06:33 PM   #3978
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No problem, I've asked plenty of dumb questions in my life. Your question I thought showed a lot of creativity.
Ya those sumps are pricy, shipping even here in the U.S. is expensive..... But what hobby is cheap.
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Old 10/28/2020, 07:19 PM   #3979
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Thinking this through... do you think the head pressure pushing up and over a baffle could affect skimmer performance?


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Old 10/28/2020, 07:29 PM   #3980
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Well we don't know the height of the baffle. This seems to be a trial and error project to me. I've never heard of anyone trying to lift water vertically in any elevation from a Skimmer. A short term test wouldn't hurt anything other than a little time and some spare parts.


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Old 10/28/2020, 09:57 PM   #3981
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I would guess the head pressure from the extra plumbing would be no different than having the gate valve on the skimmer mostly closed. It may happen that even with the gate valve all the way open, the water level in the skimmer is too high.

As chiefifd said, give it a try see what happens.


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Old 10/29/2020, 05:23 AM   #3982
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Water will seek it's own level, so the water level inside the skimmer will be at least equal to the highest point in your plumbing going over a baffle. Then add to that any "head pressure" caused by the pipes themselves.


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Old 10/30/2020, 04:44 AM   #3983
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baffle would be around 30 cm and adding pipe height so I will end up with 34-35 cm. I assume the water level inside the skimmer would go up to 35 cm and this is above what Jeff recommends for the skimmer around 23 cm.


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Old 10/30/2020, 07:45 AM   #3984
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Give it a try, then you'll know if it works or not. You shouldn't need but a few PVC elbows and plastic tubing to achieve what you're trying to do.
Let us know if it works or what issues you ran into that prevented it from working.
Looking forward to a report.
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Old 10/30/2020, 11:01 AM   #3985
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baffle would be around 30 cm and adding pipe height so I will end up with 34-35 cm. I assume the water level inside the skimmer would go up to 35 cm and this is above what Jeff recommends for the skimmer around 23 cm.
If thatís the baffle height youíre working with, then build a 12 cm stand for the skimmer so that the you get the Jeff recommended internal water height of 23 cm when you add the extra plumbing. Just make sure the pump youíre using is strong enough to accommodate the extra head height.


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Old 10/30/2020, 02:43 PM   #3986
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Give it a try, then you'll know if it works or not. You shouldn't need but a few PVC elbows and plastic tubing to achieve what you're trying to do.
Let us know if it works or what issues you ran into that prevented it from working.
Looking forward to a report.
Take care friend......
I will see. I have big plans but small space , I am trying all these tweaks only because I bought something a complete setup and after all the DIY and readings and so. I regret it now and wished if I built my own cabinet and ordered a custom built tank but anyway. Now my idea is to dump my 2nd sump that I bought 2nd hand and sell it and buy new one custom built so it will fit all, Still would try taking the skimmer outlet to the refuge baffle and I will report back how it will go.



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Old 10/30/2020, 02:48 PM   #3987
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If thatís the baffle height youíre working with, then build a 12 cm stand for the skimmer so that the you get the Jeff recommended internal water height of 23 cm when you add the extra plumbing. Just make sure the pump youíre using is strong enough to accommodate the extra head height.
Thanks but
I have tried that also, but since the height inside the cabinet is only 61cm. Then I will not have an easy way to take the skimmer cup to empty/clean it without removing the stand first and will not be convenient. I am trying to plan everything to make it easy if possible.
The pump can handle the extra head pressure I guess. I added COR 20 for that skimmer.


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Old 10/30/2020, 03:26 PM   #3988
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Thanks for getting back to us. I think we've all been there with trying to do with a DIY project that just doesn't work very well.
That's why I bought the LifeReef sump, my saving grace is I have my sump in my workshop directly behind my DT.
Good luck in your quest for perfection.......And Take care
Just wondering Salahunreal where about are you located????


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Old 10/30/2020, 03:45 PM   #3989
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Yeah the DIY in this hobby is endless. I have bought the tank like 3 years ago and have not started yet
I really really liked LR sump and how it can be CUSTOM BUILT from the ground up with all the functionalities like media reactors. LR skimmer would fit no matter what and so. I went to the last mile with Jeff and designed and calculated everything but shipping and taxes put me down. Nice you have all the space you need. Its very useful.
I am located in Stockholm in Sweden (Switzerland is a different country )


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Old 11/16/2020, 08:35 AM   #3990
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New lifereef owner couple of questions.

I just set up a used 24" model. I have a couple of questions. My skimmer compartment has a constant depth of 9.5 inches. I am running the skimmer with a jebao dcp10000 Iím having trouble figuring out what power level to run the skimmer. How much power is too much? I am also having problems seeing the bubble line to know if Iím setup correctly. Manual says set it to sticker. Does that mean top of bubbles should be that height? I plumbed in a co2 scrubber, but I am worried an accidental overflow will suck water through my brs c02 scrubber. How do you avoid this issue? I know the lifereef is less likely to overflow, but it can still happen. I have also noticed a fair amount of moisture collects in the line from the cup to the skimmer. How do I prevent that? Unfortunately I canít mount my co2 scrubber so it sits higher than the skimmer, the cup outlet and scrubber are the same height.



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Old 11/20/2020, 10:36 PM   #3991
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I just set up a used 24" model. I have a couple of questions. My skimmer compartment has a constant depth of 9.5 inches. I am running the skimmer with a jebao dcp10000 Iím having trouble figuring out what power level to run the skimmer. How much power is too much? I am also having problems seeing the bubble line to know if Iím setup correctly. Manual says set it to sticker. Does that mean top of bubbles should be that height? I plumbed in a co2 scrubber, but I am worried an accidental overflow will suck water through my brs c02 scrubber. How do you avoid this issue? I know the lifereef is less likely to overflow, but it can still happen. I have also noticed a fair amount of moisture collects in the line from the cup to the skimmer. How do I prevent that? Unfortunately I canít mount my co2 scrubber so it sits higher than the skimmer, the cup outlet and scrubber are the same height.
9.5" might be a bit too deep, you may have trouble adjusting the water level.

I wouold try the pump at 100% and see how it does, it should be fine. Jeff the owner/builder of these skimmers uses a mag18 on a 24.

Moisture in the venturi line is normal, it helps keep the venturi clear of salt creep.

Sorry but I can't help you with your scrubber question.


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Old 11/21/2020, 01:06 PM   #3992
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You will need to drain the BRS scrubbers every 3-4 days in my case. You cannot prevent the condensation from building up. You could leave a drain open is suppose but that might defeat the purpose of running it as a closed loop.


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