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Old 04/05/2020, 09:33 PM   #1
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can salt water carry COVID19?

can saltwater animals carry and transmit COVID19? I think no but I really don't know.

Any ideas?


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Old 04/05/2020, 10:29 PM   #2
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Didnít think about it. Seems unlikely with no host, but nice wet warm environment might mean day it can survive in the water?!?!? Maybe IDK. Any doctors want to chime in?


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Old 04/05/2020, 10:44 PM   #3
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Didnít think about it. Seems unlikely with no host, but nice wet warm environment might mean day it can survive in the water?!?!? Maybe IDK. Any doctors want to chime in?


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I was going to trade some stuff and my wife was worried that the water or specimen could be a carrier. I started to tell her she was crazy, luckily almost 2 decades of marriage has taught me to slow my mouth, and I remembered that staff and flesh eating disease do well in tropical salt water.


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Old 04/06/2020, 12:44 AM   #4
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Fish-Tuberculosis (Mycobacterium) and Vibrio can infect humans.

However, fish have no lungs and therefore I would think it is rather unlikely that they can carry the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Corals and inverts are even less likely.
Also, saltwater has a certain sterilizing effect...


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However, fish have no lungs and therefore I would think it is rather unlikely that they can carry the SARS-CoV-2 virus. Corals and inverts are even less likely.
Also, saltwater has a certain sterilizing effect...
+1 The virus itself can probably live in water for a short time, but fish are not suitable hosts.

This is interesting: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...2Fanimals.html


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Old 04/06/2020, 02:26 PM   #6
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It seems that cats of all kinds can get infected. There are reported cases of house cats being infected. And a group of tigers in a zoo showed symptoms and at least one tested positive for the virus.
So cat owners should be careful.

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No evidence, however, of transmission. As for fish, not at all likely. A virus is not a living thing in the sense that bacteria are. A virus is a glob of fat surrounding a dna or rna fragment that can self-replicate, and it can cause mayhem, but it's vulnerable to heat (140F) and to soap, especially oldfashioned Dawn. That's why handwashing is one of the most effective way to kill it. Soap breaks up fat and ---you can't say 'kills' for something that's not even a life-form---but ruins a virus, so it washes away in bits that won't reorganize; and heat melts it, with the same effect.


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If humans can infect cats and the infected cats actually show symptoms of Covid-19 then I would rather err on the side of caution and - until there is solid evidence to the contrary - assume that sick cats can also infect humans. Anything else would be reckless.
Keep in mind that it was first claimed that the transmission can only be from animal to human but not human to human - a claim that quickly turned out to be false.

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