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Old 12/03/2016, 08:32 PM   #26
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Following along as I am using Aqua Forrest on my 300 gallon system. When do you dose N pro and pro bio s? At night?


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Old 12/03/2016, 09:12 PM   #27
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Following along as I am using Aqua Forrest on my 300 gallon system. When do you dose N pro and pro bio s? At night?
I dose right before lights go out but that's just me.

If you have a mature reef that's never been carbon dosed then take it easy at first.

Like 1/3 recommended dose and watch closely for things like cyano etc...


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Old 12/08/2016, 09:02 PM   #28
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Some guidance needed

So, I found these products today at one of my LFS. I like the price point and the concentration (although its tough for my brain to get around 2 drops being enough)

I bought the following hoping to lower my nitrates:

PRO BIO S & BIO S

As well as some other products that are not for this purpose (coral food etc.)

Did I miss something? Should I have gotten something else wit this? I see a lot of the "F" product being tossed around...

Will this work? How long will it take to reduce my Nitrates?

Thanks for any input in advance!

Suggestions are welcome

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10 Gal sump

4 fish medium size


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Old 12/09/2016, 06:54 AM   #29
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So, I found these products today at one of my LFS. I like the price point and the concentration (although its tough for my brain to get around 2 drops being enough)

I bought the following hoping to lower my nitrates:

PRO BIO S & BIO S

As well as some other products that are not for this purpose (coral food etc.)

Did I miss something? Should I have gotten something else wit this? I see a lot of the "F" product being tossed around...

Will this work? How long will it take to reduce my Nitrates?

Thanks for any input in advance!

Suggestions are welcome

40Gal bow
10 Gal sump

4 fish medium size
You need to use pro bio s and -np pro to reduce nitrate and phosphate. Bio s is used to seed a new tank I believe.


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Old 12/09/2016, 07:16 AM   #30
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So, I found these products today at one of my LFS. I like the price point and the concentration (although its tough for my brain to get around 2 drops being enough)

I bought the following hoping to lower my nitrates:

PRO BIO S & BIO S

As well as some other products that are not for this purpose (coral food etc.)

Did I miss something? Should I have gotten something else wit this? I see a lot of the "F" product being tossed around...

Will this work? How long will it take to reduce my Nitrates?

Thanks for any input in advance!

Suggestions are welcome

40Gal bow
10 Gal sump

4 fish medium size
To reduce Phosphates and nitrates you need probiotic bacteria and culture medium for them:
Pro Bio S and -NP Pro
Is good to use Probiotic Reef Salt also.


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Old 12/11/2016, 03:57 PM   #31
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Need some clarity

I have been introduced to this line of products. So I bought the following:

Bio S
Pro Bio S
Pro Bio F
NP

But I have been chatting with a few others using these products. But I think I'm overdoing it and I'm not sure what I should or shouldn't use.

Can someone shed light for me?

40 gallon display
20 gallon sump
7 fish

I want to lower my nitrates and then maintain

I was thinking of using the NP and pro bio S until levels are low enough. Then use Pro F in my ato for ongoing maintenance without the others

Thanks for the help in advance


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Old 12/12/2016, 05:43 AM   #32
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I have been introduced to this line of products. So I bought the following:

Bio S
Pro Bio S
Pro Bio F
NP

But I have been chatting with a few others using these products. But I think I'm overdoing it and I'm not sure what I should or shouldn't use.

Can someone shed light for me?

40 gallon display
20 gallon sump
7 fish

I want to lower my nitrates and then maintain

I was thinking of using the NP and pro bio S until levels are low enough. Then use Pro F in my ato for ongoing maintenance without the others

Thanks for the help in advance
Hello,
I would not use Pro Bio F in ATO, it is a bacteria and carbon source in one, and once mixed with water will become alive, not a good idea, could cause problems, due to living components dying off in your ATO water. The idea is to use NP Pro and Pro Bio S daily to maintain low values. If you want to achieve lower nutrient values, you can add biological media to the system, and maybe Zeo Mix. But with smaller/medium bioload, the NP Pro and Pro Bio S may be sufficient enough for lowered values. You could use Pro Bio F in place of NP Pro occasionally, maybe once or twice per week. Bio S is best to use for cycling a tank, but post saltwater changes, and introduction or removal of livestock is good to use.
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Old 12/22/2016, 09:46 PM   #33
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Aquaforest, Pro Bio F is for small tanks? What If i dont use a skimmer I cant use it? Because skimmer skims out the bacteria?like vodka dosing? Whats the difference F and S


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Old 12/22/2016, 10:13 PM   #34
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Aquaforest, Pro Bio F is for small tanks? What If i dont use a skimmer I cant use it? Because skimmer skims out the bacteria?like vodka dosing? Whats the difference F and S
That's a great question. F vs S

Never noticed the Pro Bio F before.

If your using Pro Bio S with NP Pro (Need good skimmer) the S good bacteria and NP Pro is your vodka or carbon to give S energy.


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Old 12/22/2016, 10:30 PM   #35
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Differences

Bio Pro S = Highly concentrated probiotic bacteria.Supplement contains several specially selected bacteria strains.
Recommended to use in conjunction with – NP Pro or Pro Bio F

Bio Pro F = Probiotic Bacteria ----with a ---- culture medium for the proliferation of bacterioplankton.


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Old 12/22/2016, 11:08 PM   #36
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Can we use pro bio F without a skimmer then? Obviously cannot use pro bio S without skimmer


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Old 12/23/2016, 04:59 AM   #37
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@ Suji, given that Pro Bio F has a carbon source, the answer would be yes, as it is designed to enhance DOC removal.


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Old 07/11/2017, 04:31 PM   #38
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Hello,

Bio S - Nitryfying bacteria
Pro Bio S - Probiotic Bacteria

Pro Bio F - probiotic bacteria and food for bacteria

Pro F - growth media for bacteria
-NP Pro - liquid polymer - growth media for bacteria

For small tanks we Recommend to use Pro Bio F only.

For tank with Average numer of corals We recommend to use Pro Bio S and -NP Pro - If nitrate and phosphate are very high You can add Pro Bio F also.

Probiotic Reef Salt contains another Probiotic bacteria then Pro Bio F but I think that:
Probiotic Reef Salt+Pro Bio S+ -NP Pro it enough to keep nitrate and phosphate low.

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Hello

I'm still confused over here lol

Would Np Pro + Pro Bio F lower No3 or I need to add Pro Bio S along with them ?

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Old 07/12/2017, 04:16 AM   #39
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If you have high nutrients you can use Pro Bio S, -NP Pro and Pro Bio F.


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Old 07/24/2017, 11:48 PM   #40
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Please forgive me for reviving this old thread! A simple question, with no need for lengthy explanation...I have a heavily stocked 120 with a large amount of rock, fish and softies and a good skimmer in my sump. Which products should I purchase to most effectively reduce nitrate and phosphate? I have 3 brightwell aquatics Xport NO3 in my sump and have been dosing Pro Bio F for a week. One more: will Pro Bio F work on its own?
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Old 07/29/2017, 09:46 PM   #41
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Please forgive me for reviving this old thread! A simple question, with no need for lengthy explanation...I have a heavily stocked 120 with a large amount of rock, fish and softies and a good skimmer in my sump. Which products should I purchase to most effectively reduce nitrate and phosphate? I have 3 brightwell aquatics Xport NO3 in my sump and have been dosing Pro Bio F for a week. One more: will Pro Bio F work on its own?
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My suggestion would be to use Pro Bio S , Np Pro and Phos minus.


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