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Old 04/08/2017, 09:31 AM   #76
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I think he is saying he wants the issue fixed so that he can rely on the salt so he can switch back to using it.

I am not even going to test my salt.... My parameters stay in range when I test and that's all I care about. The salt mixes so well I don't want to find out it's numbers of off. As long as all is not off I can live with some higher levels.


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Old 04/08/2017, 01:31 PM   #77
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Are you using Aquaforest Salt? Parameters of your salt mix do not match to quality certificate? Can you please contact me via PM and send me photo of batch number? I am sure that I can help you.
Hello Debora,
Piper27 is spot on.
When is AF Poland going to state starting with certain new batch #'s the issue is resolved.

If I get another bucket and the parameters are through the roof what do I do at that one moment? If I use it then Comp 1-3 is not locked in anymore.

I deeply feel that the batch matches the AF QC sheet but the salt varies from
bucket to bucket.

Rakie's batch an the BRS batch was 4 day apart last summer.

We had this thread going last Oct. and AF Poland knew there's a problem way before BRS was stocked with the reef salt.

So AF Poland had time to make a decision. They decided to let those summer batches reach BRS.

I was one of the first that began using the AF salt in the US in 2015. Then I went with Comp 1-3 that came to the US later.

Over the long time period that I used the reef salt, I bought 6 buckets. Some from Amazon and some from Salty Supply. I could not get it anywhere else back then.

Out of the 6 buckets, 4 were spot on and 2 mixed up to your sea salt mix parameters as stated on this thread, so I have not bought any reef salt since May of 2016 when my bucket #6 matched my bucket #2. I dosed up those buckets while mixing.

I'm back on regular IO that I used for most time over the past 2 decades. Some batches I do dose up from them but they do not put in QC sheets.

I truly hoped that this thread was the end of it and I would like to come back to the your reef salt but then the same thing hits the BRS buckets.

I used Seachem "Salinity" for over a year and it always mixed within a very tight margin to the QC sticker on their buckets but I did not like the fact that if I stored it and did not use it ASAP then the alk would precipt. down but Seachem states that it will do that.

I want to come back to the AF reef salt but since 2015 until now the salt varies too much from the QC sheet for me to trust to what my next bucket may mix up to. A PM or replacement does nothing to help me at that moment when I'm ready to make a water change.

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Old 04/09/2017, 03:58 PM   #78
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Now you all have me wondering what salt mix I should use. I used to use Red Sea Coral Pro, but I got tired of messing with the high Alk it has. So I switched to a bucket of AF pro-biotic salt. I'm due for another bucket soon, but after reading this thread, I'm not too sure.


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Old 04/10/2017, 12:44 PM   #79
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Thought I'd share this with all of you.

https://reefhub.pl/sol-akwarystyczna-test-porownawczy/


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Old 04/10/2017, 12:57 PM   #80
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Thought I'd share this with all of you.

https://reefhub.pl/sol-akwarystyczna-test-porownawczy/
Lol,
I can not read polock...

Can somebody translate?

I see a lot of salts brands in the picture except Tropic Marin??????????

If is not stating that the consistency issues from bucket to bucket on this thread has been fixed, then it means nothing to myself as a customer.

I'm waiting AF Poland's response to my post #77

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Old 04/10/2017, 01:00 PM   #81
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You might not be able to read the wording but you can see the charts.

I'm getting information out as soon as I get it.


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Old 04/10/2017, 01:18 PM   #82
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You might not be able to read the wording but you can see the charts.

I'm getting information out as soon as I get it.
Thank You!

I can see the charts but what does that have to do with buckets not matching the QC sheets?

I'm guessing AF salt looks good in these charts but how could TM Pro Reef be missing?

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Old 04/10/2017, 03:09 PM   #83
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I am the author of the article, and I would like to bring your attention to the fact that you have no copyrights for publishing this translation without my permission.
Full translation of the document will be available in the next couple of days.
Please remove it immediately.
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Old 04/10/2017, 03:14 PM   #84
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I am the author of the article, and I would like to bring your attention to the fact that you have no copyrights for publishing this translation without my permission.
Full translation of the document will be available in the next couple of days.
Please remove it immediately.
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Old 04/10/2017, 03:19 PM   #86
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For future reference I will remove it but I really have no duty to do so.
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Old 04/10/2017, 03:21 PM   #87
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Thank you.
It will be available in English in the next couple of days.


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Old 04/10/2017, 03:24 PM   #88
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Old 04/10/2017, 03:29 PM   #89
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It is different to read auto-translated text on my page and copying it to another website. I invested a lot of time to do the test to write it. As I said, in the next couple of days it will be fully translated.


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I sent a request to admin to have those posts removed.

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Thank you.
It will be available in English in the next couple of days.
Why is Tropic Marin Pro Reef not in your testing?


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120reefer,

Can you start a new thread when it's in English?

I don't see any connection with this study to the issues on this thread.

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I believe the author will be posting a link when his translation is complete.


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Old 04/14/2017, 07:07 PM   #94
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Here is the promised link .

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Old 04/18/2017, 03:33 PM   #95
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Hey Freddie,
Aquaforest will now include batch tests online instead of a QC slip in each bucket. This is in effort to move towards what the industry on a whole is doing. I think Debora was trying to indicate that the tests in these results were due to the salinity being 35ppt as opposed to 33ppt where the QC was indicated on this batch. Hopefully this will make things a bit easier on hobbyists. I am fairly certain that a batch out there was over fortified with minerals, this was several months back, I am not certain, as I do not have access to the equipment or manufacturing.
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Hey Freddie,
Aquaforest will now include batch tests online instead of a QC slip in each bucket. This is in effort to move towards what the industry on a whole is doing. I think Debora was trying to indicate that the tests in these results were due to the salinity being 35ppt as opposed to 33ppt where the QC was indicated on this batch. Hopefully this will make things a bit easier on hobbyists. I am fairly certain that a batch out there was over fortified with minerals, this was several months back, I am not certain, as I do not have access to the equipment or manufacturing.
Cheers my friend!
Moderator,
Please delete my last post #95 as I asked you in my PM.

Hi Perry,
I'm just done with the whole thing. We can argue until the end of time but I'm done.

We can all look a year from now and see if it's truly been fixed.

We are friends and I hope your new job is going well. Have you started your office build yet?

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Is this becoming a salinity argument now?
1) If my nutrients are high its better not to use AF Probiotic right? So one must not mix Reefsalt to 35ppt ?
2) If i use Probiotic & want to hit hard on some water changes because of issues once again its not a good thing to do that with Probiotic so you need to use Reefsalt BUT once again don't use 35ppt ?.

I DO NOT WANT MY TANK AT 1500 Mg

Note the test below done Oct 2016 by AF's own ICP @ 33.5ppt & its still 1514 mg



The same table is here
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/sh...&postcount=179
(you need to scroll down a bit)

This is not just a US thing - there's post's in a UK forum about it as well with people ditching AF because of AF's lack of openness about the issue.
Anyway i was happily sorted out by AF but i'm not hooking into water changes to have my tank end up at 1500 Mg so i've walked to another brand.

AF Rep's this ain't your beef,you guys do a great job,it's the people above that are still printing b/s QC card's that need to sort their end out.
My Reefsalt QC card said 34ppt & Mg 1300......
My Mg was 1550 @ 35ppt


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Moderator,
Please delete my last post #95 as I asked you in my PM.

Hi Perry,
I'm just done with the whole thing. We can argue until the end of time but I'm done.

We can all look a year from now and see if it's truly been fixed.

We are friends and I hope your new job is going well. Have you started your office build yet?

Regards, Freddie
Freddie,
I apologize regarding the Aquaforest products and not getting the consistency and results, but yes, at the end of the day we are all reefing buddies, despite our differences. I have the office build going, it is looking great, but used fresh air rock from fiji, and it is stinking up the whole place, lol...
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Please delete my last post #95 as I asked you in my PM.

Hi Perry,
I'm just done with the whole thing. We can argue until the end of time but I'm done.

We can all look a year from now and see if it's truly been fixed.

We are friends and I hope your new job is going well. Have you started your office build yet?

Regards, Freddie
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I did, and he did.

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