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Old 02/22/2020, 06:24 PM   #1
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Onyx percs or photons

Just got a pair I really like and was wondering if anyone can confirm whether theyíre onyx perculas or photon hybrids. Thanks very much

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Old 02/22/2020, 07:17 PM   #2
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My guess would be Photons based on the white outline the female has around her soft rayed fins.
Though what can be seen of the eyes could also point to a captive-bred percula. So it could also be an Onyx percula strain.

These are Black Photons:






So Photons may actually have solid orange eyes.

As what did you buy them and how knowledgeable is the seller?


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Old 02/22/2020, 09:31 PM   #3
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I have bought photons on accident.
Also lfs get confused with the difference

I have both photons and onyx percs
There are differences
Look also at the high dorsal on the photons
Percs have a lower dorsal
Also photons and onyx percs can share that orange eye so itís not the only criteria


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Old 02/23/2020, 12:13 AM   #4
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I have bought photons on accident.
Also lfs get confused with the difference

I have both photons and onyx percs
There are differences
Look also at the high dorsal on the photons
Percs have a lower dorsal
Also photons and onyx percs can share that orange eye so itís not the only criteria


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Yes, as the pictures above demonstrate, orange eyes are not a reliable tell that these are not photons. Though a true percula never has black eyes.
The same goes for the white fin outline - its absence is not a definitive tell, its presence on the other hand is.

Such a large amount of black could point to Photons or captive-bred Onyx percula. With wild percula, it is rather rare.

All reason why I wouldn't touch any captive-bred percula or ocellaris with 10ft pole unless I know the breeder and the parents are wild-caught.


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Old 02/23/2020, 12:45 AM   #5
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Just got a pair I really like and was wondering if anyone can confirm whether theyíre onyx perculas or photon hybrids. Thanks very much

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More likely the super darker strain of Onyx. At least the female is probably that with a small misbar marking. If the male came from the same parents itís likely Onyx too. There are onyx clowns with 100% Percula lineage that get dark in the face like that. While thereís a possibility of them being photons, I donít believe thatís the case.


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Old 02/23/2020, 12:48 AM   #6
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If you can post a slightly longer video, weíll probably be able to ID them more accurately.


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Old 02/23/2020, 12:50 AM   #7
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captive-bred Onyx percula.

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Thatís what I think they are.


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Old 02/23/2020, 12:56 AM   #8
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If you can post a slightly longer video, weíll probably be able to ID them more accurately.
Yes, and flip the phone - vertical videos are not only annoying but also fairly useless on a computer.


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Old 02/23/2020, 10:15 AM   #9
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Yes, and flip the phone - vertical videos are not only annoying but also fairly useless on a computer.


Will do. Iíll post some more videos later on.
I got them from a guy that had bought an entire setup and sold what he didnít want. He said they were onyx clowns from what the previous owner said but didnt know much more.

I have some other captive bred onyx as well that look similar but Iím not sure. Iíll share some videos today.




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just throwing this out there Wild Caught misbars I know they come from SeaDwelling

https://yourfishstore.com/products/m...nfish-wild-med


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Do you have the pic of it


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Old 02/25/2020, 10:40 PM   #12
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https://youtu.be/hZXvcaNVHWY

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Those are tank raised Onyx clowns.
Some are just really dark without having any Ocellaris in them.
I had one that was extremely black even on the tail and pectoral fins, and some black markings on the chin.



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Old 02/26/2020, 06:56 PM   #14
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Those are tank raised Onyx clowns.

Some are just really dark without having any Ocellaris in them.

I had one that was extremely black even on the tail and pectoral fins, and some black markings on the chin.




Nice! I have one similar paired up with a wild caught perc.
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Old 02/26/2020, 06:57 PM   #15
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Actually I have a couple pairs lol onyx percs are my favorite clownfish.


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New onyx clown....


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