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Old 11/22/2007, 10:09 PM   #51
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so, siv, you think this is an issue of too high alk, eh? Interesting. I'm going to run a full battery of tests tomorrow and see if that's the case with my params. Thanks.


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Old 11/22/2007, 11:49 PM   #52
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Well guys a few of us have been doing an experiment and i think we may have a solution to the Zoa's melting problem. A few of us started dosing vitamin c tablets in our tanks with melting zoas and it seems to boost the immune system of the zoas. The polyps started to get big again and opening longer. Our problem was that the zoa would just all of a sudden get skinny and sometimes the top of the polyp would just squeeze up and then they start to melt with the skin peeling away then brown ooze comes out and then it's dead in like a few days. Well the vitamin c seems to have stopped it. You can e-mail me at Snoopy7671@aol.com if you have questions as my pm here don't work.


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Old 11/22/2007, 11:51 PM   #53
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It's not verified yet as there's like 3 of us doing this if anyone else has melting zoas want to try maybe we are on to something.


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Old 11/23/2007, 10:56 AM   #54
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I actually have been dosing Kent Marine C and putting Selco in the fix food for the past few days to help an injured fish. I haven't noticed any effect on the withering zoas yet, but I'll let you know if it seems to have any effect on them.


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Old 01/30/2008, 07:50 PM   #55
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Any updates on the vitamin C approach?


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Old 01/30/2008, 10:47 PM   #56
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There is a huge thread on "Treating With Vitamin C", at this forum & you should try to read as much of it as possible. See the before & after pics I posted on the 1st page. This thread is all about the exact problems I had before dosing Vit C. All my zoas are growing on large rocks & there is no way to dip them. The VC is working, not just with my sick zoas but the growth rate & polyp size is amazing on my healthy ones! Nevermind, my LPS/SPS have doubled/tripled in size! The amount of C in Selcon & Kent is minimal to the amounts I am dosing. I'm up to 45mg/gal, 2x/day.


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Old 01/31/2008, 10:07 AM   #57
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I read that this sort of condition can be brought on by certain water parameters. high temperature, low salinity and i forgot the third parameter... its in aquarium corals by borneman in the disease section its called zoanthid condition 2 or something like that. He describes almost exactly what this guy is saying, zoos close and refuse to open and then begin to melt away. This happened to me once and i still have no idea why. Around august of this year I bought a frag of these really really cool pinks. They were open the day i put them in the tank. Each day after that i noticed less and less polyps were open until they were all closed about a week later. Then some gunky looking stuff started to cover the polyps and they slowly began to melt away. A month later the colony was reduced to just a few polyps. The thing is, i had zoos and palys living all around them FINE! The 'film' never spread to any other colonies and all of my other polyps seemed happy and thriving. Could it have been my water params? i guess it couldve been but then you'd have to say that some varieties are weaker than others when it comes to water quality and stress and some are more prone to this type of illness.


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Old 07/20/2008, 05:48 PM   #58
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Great thread. Good info on zoas that seem to "melt" away.


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Old 07/20/2008, 06:16 PM   #59
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I made a typo, it's not 45mg I'm adding, it's 4500.


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Old 07/20/2008, 09:10 PM   #60
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i no expert but i like to share my experience i had these fungus attack every time when i change activated charcoal or change my t5 tubes this was i did

i try iodine dip never helped


but i placed the whole colony in t5 lights in pure actinic with more flow tada they are opening after a week placed them in shaded area and slowly moved them up slowly it works i did it couple of times


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Old 01/29/2009, 07:50 PM   #61
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Old 01/29/2009, 07:54 PM   #62
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Are you adding vitamin C yet? They should be getting better if you are.


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Old 07/21/2009, 02:10 AM   #63
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I read the first page and getting tired so I skipped to the end, Ive had the same problem with Zoa's melting away, I had a frag station with 12 plugs on it and almost all were or had melted away, they were up high in a 29g biocube with the stock 10k and actinic PC's, I moved the melting zoas to the bottom of the tank and most of them started to open and doing better each day. Some were already gone and of course not all made it but I honestly think they were getting to much light, like the post I read by MUCHO REEF
about putting his colony under a overhang and coming back.
I don't know if it has been mentioned, probably has but just wanted to share my experience to help my fellow reefers.
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Old 07/23/2009, 10:48 PM   #64
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I've had this "fungus" attack a colony and I put the colony under HIGH flow and it really seamed to help alot! Almost all the the colony has bounce back.


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Old 07/24/2009, 12:14 PM   #65
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Re: was reading and

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good discussion.. awhile back a guy asked about heartworm pills for dogs...I am a vet tech the name of the pill is heargaurd...but i cant see how dissolving this pill will help!! be careful

as for the rest i have had a similar problem..gooing gooing gone everything else healthy in tank good advice thanx.. i was thinking of just sacraficing that zoo for tanks sake thanks
Are you guys sure you aren't talking about INTERCEPTOR?
It's being used as a treatment for AEFW (Acro Eating Flat Worms) with great success but I doubt that it would do anything for the zoa fungus.


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Old 07/24/2009, 05:57 PM   #66
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Interceptor is only used for REDBUGS and doesn't kill AEFWs.


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Old 11/26/2009, 10:44 PM   #67
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no photos of affected colonies??


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Old 11/26/2009, 10:46 PM   #68
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Old 11/26/2009, 10:54 PM   #69
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I know. But it's been around for 4 years actually w/much discussion and No one has posted any pictures....

so is this was melting is? The polyps close and then it disappears?




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Yep, are you having this problem too?


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Old 11/26/2009, 10:57 PM   #71
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AND it's in the zoanthid information draft and will keep getting "hits"

This colony is half wiped out. I lost a purple/green cat eye and watermelon to.


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My water is testing just fine.


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Did you read my information about vitamin C dosing?


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Old 11/27/2009, 12:43 PM   #74
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My pink zoas are the only ones that have done this. I put them in less light and it stopped spreading through the colony.


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Old 12/29/2009, 05:48 PM   #75
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I have never had a problem with this until I added a UV Sterelizer so i think its true they like dirty water


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