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Old 10/20/2021, 11:41 AM   #2076
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Sorry I haven't been around much lately. So much 'outside fun' right now, so the tank gets neglected. I'm sure I'll get back in gear as it gets colder.
Hah, that's my excuse! (along with work, bleh)

I saw that pond and thought about what fish I could collect for my river tank in there

So how's the tank doing now?


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Old 10/20/2021, 01:57 PM   #2077
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Yep, it's been a slack aquarist's summer for me. Hopefully, I'll get my act together soon. I just can't get motivated to work on the tank. Plus, I wanted to see how the new herbivores did, as far as algae clean-up goes. So, I've let the tank run wild. Stanley, the new Sailfin Tang looks like he's starting to make a dent in the Caulerpa, but I don't think it's his first choice. I've been feeding the tank only once a day, so they will be 'motivated' to graze naturally, and they have.

I decided to break tank work into smaller 'bites', to help me get working on it. So I just cleaned the glass last weekend. It was manageable but with all the spiroid worms and coralline algae, it was tougher than usual. Now, I'm going after sand bed caulerpa and cyanobacteria. I'm just doing a little, every few days, so it's not overwhelming.

The seagrass is once again overgrown and coated with calcium and coralline. It's great that it grows up to the surface but it could use a simulated manatee grazing event. So the tanks doing ok, but could be prettier.


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Old 10/21/2021, 12:48 AM   #2078
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I might as well post a pic, with the glass cleaned up. Full tank shot. Kinda shaggy. The grasses are shading the patch reef. The san bed caulerpa hides the cyanobacteria, but it's there. You can see the area I cleaned up on the right end of the grasses.




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Old 10/21/2021, 07:23 AM   #2079
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Wow, that looks fantastic! The grass is thickening up nicely!

Do you have any pics of your new(est) fish?


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Old 10/21/2021, 10:13 AM   #2080
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Thanks Kevin! It's thick alright! Almost reminds me of your river tank.

I was just thinking about getting pics of the new fish. They aren't particularly cooperative, but I really should. Time for a fish photoshoot!

You'd never know from the pic above but they really are active and add tons of interest. My little three fish harem of Royal Grammas is doing very well. They're a close-knit group, and look to be approaching spawning age! Even the new little Talbots's Damsels are settling in, and they look gorgeous. One has taken up residence in a barnacle! They eat a little algae too, along with pods.

Scarlett, the Tomini Tang swims so gracefully, I'm tempted to change her name to Grace! Stanley the Sailfin Tang isn't nearly as graceful, but when he flares his fins, he's pretty impressive.

I still have three Allen's Damsels, and I'm still impressed by their blue shimmer, even though they've gotten pretty big. Most damsels get mean and dull-colored as they get older. These guys are definitely not as nice as they were as juveniles, but they're still pretty mellow, for damsels. Of all the damsels I've tried, these are my favorites.


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Old 10/22/2021, 12:19 AM   #2081
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Oh man, I look forward to those pics. Yes, your success with the grass in your tank has made an impact on me. I think in my river tank, I got lucky with the parameters this time LOL. When I get my oyster reef off and running, I really want to have some success with eel grass and macros, so I will be doing something similar with the sand bed toward the rear of my tank. You're an inspiration, and I've pointed my friends to your builds as they're trying to get brackish/salt grass tanks going for sea horse displays.


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Old 10/23/2021, 03:03 PM   #2082
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Looks amazing Michael. I looked at Kevin's tank and then yours and I am so jealous of all the beautiful greenery.


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Old 10/23/2021, 03:15 PM   #2083
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My little yellow tail damsels are feistier than at first but mostly only with each other. Tommy the tomini tang chases one of the damsels. It hides out in a barnacle too..


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Old 10/28/2021, 12:10 PM   #2084
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I just learned one reason why Ulva doesn't do well in my tank. I have a large black-fingered mud crab who loves to eat it. I never noticed it before. It doesn't seem to eat the Gracilaria though. I wonder about how sea grass will do if I ever give that a try.


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Old 10/28/2021, 12:46 PM   #2085
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I think Ulva is almost universally loved by all herbivores/omnivores. My tiny Dove Snails go after it big time. When conditions are to it's liking, it can often outpace predation. But those conditions are not ideal aquarium conditions, so they eventually succumb.

This also brings up the question of 'editing' down tank critters that may be competing with your own goals for the tank. Sometimes, we get something small, and it fits right in. Later, they get bigger and too destructive for the tank's ecosystem. In the meantime, we get attached, and instead of removing it, we allow our plan to get hijacked, essentially giving up control of our intended goals. Is this crab doing that?


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Old 10/29/2021, 03:07 PM   #2086
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Well, I like the crab more than the Ulva, so, I guess I'll view the Ulva as temporary beauty but also as food. In the wild, it's a sign of high nutrient waters, so probably not an indicator of a healthy environment (as you stated) in the wild or in my tank. Eel grass, however, would be a different story. I would either keep the crab in the oyster reef tank and move the eel grass and make a lagoon tank (for seahorses, sticklebacks, rainwater killies, gobies, etc.) or move the crab. Not sure yet. I guess it would depend on how the grasses are doing soon after collection (I got a good tip on where to get it next summer). Also, this would be in my 100g tank. I obtained a 40g tank which might serve as a good Chesapeake Bay sea grass tank. You have options when it comes to having more than one tank, you can create 2 versions of the same biotope! I think with better lighting, the Ulva growth would outpace predation. My light is a cheap one.


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Old 10/29/2021, 03:09 PM   #2087
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BTW, how are your grasses doing? Are they still growing well even with the calcium deposits on them?


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Old 10/29/2021, 04:12 PM   #2088
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Yeah, I found that I could put Ulva right at the top of tank, right under my 400 watt metal halide, and if there were adequate nutrients, it would grow like crazy.

The grasses are still good, even with the coatings. They just break off where they're dead. I'll prune them down at some point. I don't think I've ever had so much of it reach the surface. But the fish do seem to appreciate the pruning. It allows them more swimming space and to more easily access the sand.


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Old 11/02/2021, 07:45 AM   #2089
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That's interesting. I guess there is hope with my big tank because the lighting is a huge upgrade. And, translating what you do with pruning your grasses is exactly what I need to do in my river tank. My grasses are changing the tank from a rockscape to a jungle LOL. So, whenever I need to seek direction, all I need to do is come back here to get ideas!!! Plus, your tank is one of my favorites on-line. It always has been from the beginning. It's so cool and different than the zillions of other tanks on-line. You've successfully taken a FW planted concept to a salt version, and, throw in the macros, that's pretty unique, I'd say!


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Old 11/02/2021, 10:21 AM   #2090
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Thanks for the kind words Kevin! I do like being different. I just prune the grasses down to the green. They respond well to it, and keep on growing.

I'm stoked you're having success with your Vallisneria! Welcome to the paradox of having too much of a good thing!


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Old 11/03/2021, 05:22 PM   #2091
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Hooray to both of you guys, Michael and Kevin for your successes. Its cool to see 2 very unique concepts for tanks!


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Old 11/03/2021, 05:55 PM   #2092
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Thanks Dawn. Your tank concept is pretty unique too! We three are an awesome little group of oddballs. Lovin' it!


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Old 11/04/2021, 05:13 PM   #2093
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Ha ha, I love your description of us being an awesome little group of oddballs. That is hilarious! I guess we are.


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Old 11/04/2021, 09:06 PM   #2094
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Ha! Sometimes the truth is hilarious…


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Old 11/04/2021, 09:18 PM   #2095
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I've grown weary of pulling Caulerpa. I want someone else to do it for me. I need to make my tank easier to maintain. Spending hours on a step ladder reaching down into a 30 inch deep tank has gotten old. And so have I…

Awhile back I researched caulerpa eating fish. I think it's time to put that info to good use. Time to start shopping for a…Foxface! I've never kept one, but I'm ready to try. I'd like to find a smallish one with no black spot. I'll have to drop my 2 LFSs and see if anybody has one, or maybe order one if they don't.

Time to get a quarantine tank ready I guess.


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