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Old 11/12/2019, 03:48 PM   #726
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Thanks for sharing your collection experience! The new fish are cool. Nice vid! It's great to see your tank come to life. What's next?


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Old 11/13/2019, 06:03 AM   #727
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Thank you Michael!

Next? Well, over the next few weeks, I want to get out and try and collect more fish. My target species include more of the same species of darters, with at least one female of each species. As far as dither fish, there are three or four species of minnows that I'm interested in. Either satinfin (Cyprinella analostana) or spotfin (Cyprinella spiloptera) shiners (they are very similar), Rosyside dace (Clinostomus funduloides), and silverjaw minnows (Notropis buccatus). There many other species, and I may keep some of the nicer looking ones. One of those are rosyface shiners (Notropis rubellus). There is another species of darter that I'm interested in too, the greenside darter (Etheostoma blennioides) which are quite beautiful as well.

Also, I am going to check out the river to see if there are any plants still alive. It's been cold, and typically they die off about now. But, there could be still some rooted and hanging on. If I can't get out and do that, then I may wait until next summer for the plants. I also need to figure out a QT process for my FW fish, or maybe just treat them directly in the DT since I probably won't have inverts other than snails. The darters eat snails big time, so I won't have to worry about an established population of them. So, algae control will have to be via growing plants.

Refine my QT process, including purchasing a better copper testing device (Hanna instruments). I will treat the fish with copper and Prazipro in QT before adding them to the DT. As far as macros and inverts go, all will be QT'd in the holding tank, observed and kept fallow for 9 weeks so I don't introduce parasite hitchhikers.

As far as the oyster reef goes, I was way too content with my 20g set up. It's time to get the 100g stand finished, install the lighting, and get the 100g tank set up. After that, I'll work on the plumbing through the wall, the sump in the basement, and set up the RO/DI filter and a water changing station. I want the big tank up and running, cycled, before spring collecting time.

In the past, I hadn't done a lot of water changes. I may do them more periodically. Once macros become established in my tank, I'll need to figure out their specific needs and address them. This is my plan for oyster reef V2.


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Old 11/13/2019, 07:11 AM   #728
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Dang! That's pretty impressive. You sound like a man with plan.

I look forward to following your progress!


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Old 11/13/2019, 03:54 PM   #729
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Thanks Michael. Me too! I will be testing my carpentry skills soon with the stand.


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Old 11/19/2019, 07:16 AM   #730
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I wound up collecting more fish from a local stream about 40 minutes from my house for my FW stream tank this past weekend. This small stream has been one of my favorite smallmouth bass fishing spots over the years. It has a wide diversity of fish species, as much as any stream in the Western part of Maryland.


There are a couple species that I still want, but, for the most part, it's fully stocked now. I also found a beautiful red rock that I just had to put into the tank. I'm trying to find at least one rock to add to the tank from each fish collecting site. This tank is a Potomac River biotope tank, minus major predators.

The species below are currently in this tank:

Darters:
Rainbow Darter (Etheostoma caeruleum)
Fantail Darter (Etheostoma flabellare)
Greenside Darter (Etheostoma blennioides)

Minnows, Shiners and Dace:
Eastern Blacknosed Dace (Rhinichthys atratulus)
Spottail Shiner (Notropis hudsonius))
Silverjaw Minnow (Notropis buccatus)
Longnose Dace (Rhinichthys cataractae)
River Chub (Nocomis micropogon)

Here's a short video of the tank and the new critters:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3WnmcDz4jk&t=1s

I probably won't post more about this tank unless I have a major update or something really exciting happens. If you're interested in this tank, you can see regular updates on the NANFA forum.

It's getting colder outside, so my fishing trips shouldn't be as regular, which will free up time for me to rebuild my oyster reef in the 100g tank. I have a lot of work to do, but I'm determined to have it up, running, and cycled by the spring fish collecting season.


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Old 11/19/2019, 09:09 AM   #731
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Cool pic of the stream you collected from. It's nice to see the context of your native fish. I enjoyed the video too! The tank looks great! I also found your NANFA thread. I look forward to following along.

Most of all, I look forward to following your oyster reef tank's progress. Keep us apprised!


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Old 11/19/2019, 02:06 PM   #732
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Thanks Michael! I definitely will. Even though it seems like a long time until spring, I've learned that my procrastination has no bounds, so it's really not that long of a time. I need to get busy on the build soon.


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Old 11/19/2019, 02:16 PM   #733
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I know what you mean. I want to be ready for spring and my seagrasses' growth spurt, so I've been thinking about what needs to be done beforehand.

I imagine it's pretty hard to jump right in to another tank build! My favorite procrastination activity is to make a list of what to do, once I've worked up the energy. Then I just do one thing, then another one thing, so it's never overwhelming.

Take your time and enjoy the journey!


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Old 11/19/2019, 02:56 PM   #734
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Thank you for the great advice Michael. I will take heed. First step, finish the stand.


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Old 01/22/2020, 06:46 AM   #735
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Time for an update. As you might suspect with a new tank, I had an algae invasion, or outbreak, or whatever it's called. It wasn't unexpected, especially given the high bioload. About two weeks ago, I also cleaned the algae off of the wall, roots and rocks, in addition to a large water change that I'll mention again below. I also cleaned the canister filter, being careful as to not hurt the biological filtering ability of the system. As you can see, it's back.

To combat the algae, I'll be performing another large water change this weekend, complete with more physical removal of the algae. I also planted Vallisneria americana to try and out compete the algae for nutrients. I think that will help, assuming the plants take to the tank. The lighting is adequate (Fluval planted light), along with plenty of nutrients with the heavy bioload, which should help the plants grow and thrive.

I lost a few fish since I stocked the tank, mostly some of the smaller blunt nosed minnows, although one hung in there and is growing. All of the adult fish, except for one black nosed dace, are doing fine. I had to battle ich, and that was the main reason for the fish deaths (4 total fish died). I treated them for three weeks with aquarium salt by raising the SG to 1.003. The ich seems gone and hasn't returned since I stopped treatment by making a 90% water change. The fish still scratch occasionally. I may try a treatment of Prazipro, thinking that they might have flukes that survived the salt treatment, or some sort of other unseen parasite. This leads me to a question...do fish still scratch at times when they are parasite free? Are they really ever parasite free?

Now for some pics followed by another video...

Full tank shot:


Left side, showing the faux roots and current sources (spray bar top left, and circulation pump located behind the roots):


Right side, showing the newly planted Vallisneria americana:


And, finally, a video showing everything and showcasing the fish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05Cp7BVXBBk&t=3s


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Old 01/22/2020, 08:02 AM   #736
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Wow, it looks great! The algae really gives it a natural patina. Super fun with all those fish too! Do any of them eat algae? Maybe consider some reproducing snails to help out. I love valisneria. I had some in my freshwater planted tank. It can get invasive, but right now, you can use a greedy plant like that to compete with algae. Well done!


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Old 01/22/2020, 01:51 PM   #737
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Thank you Michael! All of the minnow species nibble on the algae, but not enough to make a difference. Snails would work, but the darters eat them, so they wouldn't last long. I'd have to collect and restock them often to make a difference, and right now, they're all hibernating. The positive side to darters eating them is that it's a healthy food for the fish. The downside of that is that snails carry parasites that infect darters.

However, a friend on the NANFA forum recommended that I try and catch a species of fish that would eat the algae and make a difference, called a central stoneroller. I tried to get one on my last collecting trip, but no luck. It's been too nasty of weather to go collecting lately, between freezing temps or rain on the days that I happen to be off work. Isn't that always the case though? Why are all the nice weather days on work days?


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Old 03/02/2020, 03:41 PM   #738
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Well, it's almost a month since my last update. I've spent a lot of time out fishing, and not doing much with my tanks. My oyster reef tank project hasn't changed much lately. I want to get that going, so will begin work on it.

Mostly, I've been focused on my FW stream tank, doing some maintenance, mostly. Even with it, I have a lot of work to do still. I purchased a few more Vallisneria plants and, for now, have them in the foreground. I will probably move them as they grow. I have a few pics and a video to share. I really love watching this tank, the movement, the fish...I go down to feed them and intend to watch for 15 minutes, and wind up staying an hour or more.

Full Tank Shot:


Left Side:


Right Side:


My latest video. I hope y'all like it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3I7_B3-Oro


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Old 03/02/2020, 05:01 PM   #739
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Man, that looks good! So real and natural. Awesome patina of life on the rocks and roots.


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Old 03/03/2020, 05:38 AM   #740
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Thanks Michael. Sorry I haven't been around much. I have a lot of catching up to do on your thread too. Work has been crazy busy, and when I get home, the last thing that I want to do is get on a PC LOL.


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Old 03/03/2020, 10:07 AM   #741
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No worries. You have a life. There has been some interesting discussion on my thread. Check it out when you can.


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